11 Reasons Poker Players Make Great Futures Traders

Two cards face down and a Queen sitting on the river in a dimly lit, smoky room. Two men face off even though neither of them looks the other in the eye. They are intently focused on the dealer as the last card is casually flipped out of his hand and dealt. Who will win? Who will earn the coveted pot? And more importantly, what has separated these two men from the rest of the people who were once seated at the same table?

Poker is arguably the most popular game of chance in modern gambling. Its popularity has seen unprecedented heights over the last decade with tournaments frequently broadcast on major cable channels such as ESPN. Many people have become familiar with the famous poker stars of today, who have become household names.

What makes these well known poker players great? Would these talents translate to other ventures? We think so. In fact we think that we’ve found the perfect alternative occupation for skilled poker players. The answer is Trading.

Poker players possess many of the same attributes of a good Trader. Don’t believe us? Well, we’ve created a list of the top 11 Reasons why poker players make great traders:

A good poker player will be able to think quickly and apply the decisions made at the proper time. Forex traders also need to make quick decisions as bid/ask prices change quickly and the smallest hesitation can cause a loss of potential profit.
Poker is not a game often enjoyed by the impulsive or those with ADD. To succeed at poker, one must be methodical in their approach and grind out each hand while cultivating enough discipline to stick to good poker principles. They must not get caught up in hysteria or become bored with a long hand. Futures traders practice the same discipline and must adhere to their technical analysis strategies, while avoiding panic when a curveball is thrown at them in the market. They cannot lose interest when pouring through Fibonacci Retracement charts.
Every card dealt in a poker game changes the circumstances and parameters instantaneously. Skilled poker players can adapt to these changes without breaking a sweat. Futures traders must possess this talent as well, since an adjustment in the interest rate by the Fed or new employment data can alter a currency’s exchange rate just as quickly as a one-eyed Jack.
Here’s a little secret – professional poker players don’t win every hand and can sometimes go weeks or months without breaking even. Often they incur huge losses when a calculated bet backfires. Futures traders can also be subject to large hits to their bank accounts when a currency pair defies reason and slides far in the wrong direction. Both professions require the individual to have the capability to bounce back and still take chances, knowing their logic is sound and they will eventually reap what they’ve sown.
Poker and Trading both require participants to be very skilled in mathematics. Poker players must be able to calculate odds and potential cards in a split second (not to mention the infamous “card counters”). Investors must be adept at crunching large amounts of financial data in order to predict trends and assist in technical analysis, along with forecasting potential profits based on the movements of the market.
Do you have the guts to stare down your opponent and convince them that you may have pocket aces, when really the only cards you’re holding are a lonely seven of hearts and a two of clubs? To do so requires a large amount of confidence. Trading is not for the faint of heart. It requires quite a bit of intestinal fortitude to leverage your to buy (with the knowledge you might lose significant money) in order to make big bucks when your contract(s) rises by a few percentage points.
If you’ve ever played cards with your drunk uncle who plops down 5 black cards (all of different suits) and challenges you in his inebriated excitement to beat his Royal Flush then you know that a skilled poker player can only win if he thoroughly knows the rules of the game. Similarly a successful Futures trader will know the different trading options available to help him turn a profit such as short selling or going long.
An essential trait of poker players is to know how to fund and manage their bankroll – in other words the amount of money which they have to gamble with. Similarly, a smart Futures trader must know how to deftly manage the amount of money to trade with. Both the poker player and the futures trader know that any given time with the right circumstances they could lose all of their money. The top professionals in each venture know how to leverage the working capital at their disposal in order to reap a big pot.
Poker is a game of chance with many variables affecting the ultimate outcome of a hand or tournament. Contract values are subject to change due to a myriad of factors. Poker players and Future traders cannot completely control their environment. They must be able to accept and enjoy the inherit randomness of their vocations. Many people are afraid of the unknown and will drive themselves crazy with the knowledge they cannot control everything they are engaged in. These people may be great accountants, but will not make good poker players or Futures traders.
Eventually all poker players and Futures traders have to walk away from the table or peel themselves away from the computer. Why? For the simple reason that these are stressful professions which take their toll and require you to keep a keen pulse on your emotions. Are you becoming paranoid, feel like you’re tilting or aren’t as sharp as you were yesterday? Then it may be time to take a break. Go for a run or play with your kids. Triumphant poker players and Futures traders must be able to keep emotions stable and their own mental health strong.
Despite the many misleading ads on the internet, most people will not get rich quick playing poker or trading. Sorry to break it to you. But, if you are focused on the long term goals of making a profession out of either then you can succeed. Small, consistent victories add up to progressively more chips and a bigger bankroll.

So, there you have it! If you’re known on the block as the local card shark and clean up at your office poker parties, then you may want to consider trying out Futures trading. The chance to make money by using your natural abilities is great in the futures pit.

Instead of pulling out your favorite cigar and heading to your weekly game, maybe you could pull up to your computer and research the world of Futures Trading. Or if you’re already logged in on Party Poker then try sitting out the next hand and look into opening your first Futures demo account. Either way make sure to put your supernatural poker abilities to good use as you start learning how to trade.

 

Matt Dye is an emini day trader and trading coach with a strong focus on high probability trading strategies and skill development.  At A Business With Trading you can hear top level day trading training through the day trading course and the complimentary emini trading room.

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Trader or Investor?

“Trader or Investor”

Are you an investor or a trader? The answer is I don’t know exactly where one begins and the other one ends. This question needs to be examined because it provides insight into why so many people would be far better off investing in a diversified portfolio of low cost passive investments such as low cost mutual funds and exchange traded funds that they rebalance periodically or systematically.

We learned in that the single most important concept about diversification isn’t whether it is good or not, it is whether you should do it or not. We learned in that you can increase your rate of return by approximately 1% per year while reducing your risk if you systematically rebalance your portfolio and choose a balanced allocation to stocks and bonds. We learned in that trading is a zero sum game. We learned that in order for a trader to win it must come at the expense of another trader or traders. We also learned that to be a winning trader you must have a trading approach with a positive mathematical expectation. If you don’t you will be a losing trader. It’s clear then that people trade because they think they can make money from inferior traders. Otherwise they wouldn’t unless of course they just enjoy losing money. Lastly, we learned in that you must develop your own methodology or you will be unsuccessful since every day in the investment world is today.

This tale tries to bring some clarity to the question of investing. What about investing? Is it a zero sum game? For example, the individual that purchased General Electric 30 years ago and has never sold a share had to purchase it from someone. Is the purchaser a trader or an investor? Assuming that General Electric went up during the 30-year period did the purchaser make money at the expense of the seller? Is the person that sold it to him 30 years ago a trader or an investor? What about when after 30 years of holding General Electric the original purchases decides to sell it? This is the complexity of the question are you a trader or an investor?

In order to get a handle on this question let’s develop an extreme scenario. Let’s imagine a world that allows stock investing but with no stock trading allowed. In this world everyone is an investor. There are no traders. If you buy a stock you would purchase it directly from the issuing company using a formula that everyone agrees is the correct way to value the stock you are purchasing. Similarly, when you go to sell you would sell it back to the company using the exact same formula. In this imaginary world the price you sell your shares for compared to the price you bought them for would be your profit or loss. In this world you would fall under one of the many definitions of an investor as one that buys small pieces of a business. These small pieces of a business are stocks of course. For the sake of simplicity let’s say the holding period in this world is 30 years.

What would this world look like in terms of rate of return on stocks? We know that historically stocks have returned about 9-10% per year to investors over the last 75 years or so. Let’s assume that the rate for the next 30 years would be 10%. This is a reasonable assumption. In the world that I created not everyone would earn a 10% return but in the aggregate the sum total of all investors would earn 10%. Those that construct a diversified portfolio of these non-tradable stocks would all cluster around this 10% return area and those that construct concentrated portfolios would have the possibility of deviating significantly from the 10% area. These concentrated portfolios could even have negative returns if the person making the investment decisions wasn’t particularly talented at securities selection. Others that build these concentrated portfolios might make returns in excess of 20% since they have superior stock selection skills and will invest in those companies that will based on the formula make the most return. I use the term securities selection to highlight superior stock picking skill. Stock picking skill is not the same as trading. Trading is a different skill.

Please note that in my imaginary world, like the real world, and with academic research, the possibility of someone constructing a diversified portfolio of stocks that significantly deviates from the 10% average does not exist. Why do I say this? It’s by definition. If you have a diversified portfolio you will make market rates of return which in this case are 10%. If you examine the record of people that have achieved great rates of return you will discover people that have some combination of a concentrated portfolio or superior trading. Great performance does not come from someone that builds a diversified portfolio of stocks they buy and hold. Some may argue with this but don’t believe them, by definition it is not true. Again this doesn’t argue against diversification it just points out its limitations. If you have superior stock picking skill you should use it, why settle for diversification rates of return. If you don’t you should diversify because the superior stock selectors in this case is taking a large chunk of your money as well as little chunks of all the diversified investor’s money.

What can we learn about this imaginary world so far? We can learn that investing, unlike trading, is a non zero sum game or endeavor because the pool of wealth grows at 10% per year on average. In a zero sum game the pool would grow at 0% per year on average. Investing in stocks has based on history a 10% gain built in so stock investing is a positive sum game. This is a very good thing and something that people looking to build wealth should take advantage of. What else can we learn? We learned that there are different levels of stock selection expertise. We can measure this expertise against the 10% benchmark. There are those that will lose money in this world and those that will amass great wealth strictly on their stock selection skills.

Let’s introduce trading into the positive sum game of investing. In other words let’s introduce a zero sum game into a positive sum world. In my imaginary world, investors show up to the investing game with a built in 10% rate of return if they choose to diversify. If they choose to concentrate they may make more or less than 10% but the winner must possess superior stock picking skill. But what if they choose to act like traders? Let’s now define the two terms. The investor doesn’t make any transactions, trades or switches during the 30-year period. The trader does. So the trader must make these trades with other traders. Since the trader must also trade something they are by default also stock selectors. Trading thus means switching stocks during this 30-year period with the intention of beating the “investment return” of 10%.

We now have a world where a player can choose to diversify and make approximately 10% per year. They can choose to concentrate and hopefully make more than 10% if they possess superior stock selection skills. Lastly, they can trade with other like minded people that think they possess superior stock trading skills. Keep in mind since the total pot in this game can’t exceed the 10%, then the superior players, those that make more than 10%, must be either superior stock pickers or superior traders or both. In addition the superior players have made a conscious decision to not diversify and settle for a 10% return. To complete the logic, it’s possible for someone to possess superior skills in either stock selection or trading and still make less than the 10% return than those that choose to not play the game by simply diversifying. How can this be? It is possible for someone to possess one of the superior skills but be so deficient in the other so as to produce a less than 10% outcome.

In this tale I have just explained the stock investing game. It’s a game that has a positive outcome with only three types of players. There is the diversifier, the trader and the stock selector. All three are known as investors yet they are unique. Traders and stock selectors think they can do better than the diversifiers because otherwise they wouldn’t be trading or stock selecting. The diversifier comes in two forms. The first chooses to diversify out of ignorance since they have heard that it is the only way to invest if you don’t know what you are doing. The second has researched the markets through study or trial end error and has reached the conclusion that they don’t possess either superior trading skills or superior stock selection skills and is happy with a diversified portfolio and makes 10%. Either way it doesn’t matter. Both choose to diversify but for different reasons. Once again, this is why diversification is called the only free lunch on Wall Street.

So what should you be? The reality is that very few people possess superior stock selection skill and in my opinion even less people possess superior trading skills. For the vast majority of investors they are better off in a diversified portfolio of stocks in the form of low cost stock index funds and exchange traded funds. When you consider that trading is a zero sum game but that in the world there are real trading costs, we see that the chances of success for all but the truly gifted are even more remote. Trading isn’t a zero sum game as it is in my imaginary world in reality it is a negative sum game because of trading costs.

So have we answered the question of identity? Can we tell what an investor is vs. a trader? I think the answer is unclear. Like so many things it is a state of mind. You are what you define yourself to be. In our example an investor was one that held a portfolio for the 30 years without making any switches. The trader is one that during this 30-year period made a switch with another trader in order to try to exceed the 10% return that is readily available through diversification. But what if we lowered the holding period from 30 years to 30 months or 30 days or 30 minutes and used the same logic? Would we still be able to classify people as investors or traders during this shorter holding period? The answer is yes in a theoretical sense. In a practical sense it is not. In my opinion everyone that invests is a little bit of each. Call yourself whatever you want, just make sure you know that if you choose to play the stock selection or trading game that you are giving up an expected 10% rate of return in exchange for more or less depending on your skill.

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Great story tellers know that people learn and understand life lessons when they are told in the form of a story, a tale or a fable. A few years ago I embarked on a project to teach my children, all 4 of them, the things that I had learned about managing money.

As a first generation Cuban-American most of what I learned as a child, and most of what I still know today, was told to me in the form of a tale. The Cuban tradition, like so many others, has been passed down around the kitchen table, over good food, a strong family, true friends and the optimism that our children would contribute to a better world long after we are gone. Because to so many the written word is beyond their reach, the spoken word has been the way to communicate through the generations.

My intent is to convey what I have learned about money, finance and investments in the same tradition. My lessons are all told in the form of a tale and since I have been advising individual investors for more than 25 years, I have lots of tales that may hit close to home. I hope that you enjoy them and let me know what you think.

Education:

University of Rochester – MBA – Finance and Applied Economics – Honors – 1982

Johns Hopkins University – BA – Natural Science – 1980

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Star Wars Galaxies Muntions Trader Guide Grinding to CL 80 as Making Weapons and Armor in SWG

Everyone knows that even though the Star Wars stories take place in a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away the technology of the universe is several hundred years beyond that of our own. Sure, the droids, ships and buildings are nice to build, but far more important for the serious trader who wants to keep peace in the galaxy is the manufacture of armor and weapons. Star Wars Galaxies characters can make advanced weaponry by becoming a munitions trader.

Central to many of the the trade skills in Star Wars Galaxies is the concept of reverse engineering. While it sounds like a complicated process, it is simply the method by which a completed item can be used to make the schematics necessary to that can be used by the droids are crafting machines. When a player has all the necessary materials, he must then understand the basic concepts for making armor and weapons in Sony Online Entertainment’s second mmorpg offering.

Making Armor in Star Wars Galaxies as a Munitions Trader

Armor is relatively simple to make in the game, but it must be made in segments and then linked into a an armor core. The armors available can range from the fashionable padded to the functional composite armor worn by serious adventurers.

According to the Star Wars Galaxies wiki, looted items are currently superior to the items made by traders, although it notes that this might be corrected in a future patch. Experimenting on crafted weapons and armor increases the damage of the weapons and the protection offered by the armor.

Grinding as a Star Wars GalaxiesMunitions Trader

The following list, adapted from the grinding guide on Allakhazam’s section of the site devoted to Star Wars Galaxies will help players become a master munitions trader.

CL 1 – 17: Survey Tools, Anything to Get to CL 18
CL 18-26: Armor and Weapons Subcomponents
CL 27-58: Advanced Weapon Components
CL 59-82: Advanced Recon Cores
CL 83-90: Continue with the Recon Cores and the Components Granted at 84.
Making Money with the Munitions Grinder Trade Skill

Although players will favor looted weapons over player made weapons, the armor is in demand among the denizens of the galaxy. Other things that can help the profitability are selling survey tools and using the forage commend to locate hidden treasure maps, according to Allakhazam. The player who wants to put in the effort to get to the highest levels of munitions trader will find himself rewarded once he gets to CL 90, but it is a long process. Grinding macros can make the task a little easier, but it will be dull and repetitive.

Resources:

Star Wars Galaxies Droid Engineering Guide

Star Wars Galaxies Wiki – Munitions Trader

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